I just learned something fairly interesting and completely childish. Today, I published a post on my blog. It was a simple little post, an answer to one of those little memes that goes around the blogging world. Nothing too serious . . . just a little laugh to start off a Monday.
Just like many of my posts, I created several links to other bloggers or other sites that might explain my posts. To some people, my posts can be a little confusing or overly intellectual or contain too many big words and some of those words may need further information. Or sometimes, I create links to be funny. You know, because sometimes I try to be funny.
You know, sometimes people don't agree with me. Sometimes they think my use of the word fuck is too liberal. Sometimes they don't like my politics. Some people like to comment on what I do or don't do with my breasts. Or sometimes they might call me mean. But NOT ONCE has anything on my blog been censored or deleted or completely removed from the online forum that I list as "One of My Favorite Things" on said blog.
But today it was.
Apparently, someone finds one particular link so disturbing, so over the top, so . . . wrong, that my post was deliberately removed from a local blog roll on a local forum.
No, seriously. Really.
What in the sam hell did you link to, Ms. PH? What could be SOOOOO offensive to the good people of Peoria that such a harmless little post was removed? What was it? A snuff film? Baby seal clubbing videos? A picture of that big ball of twine in Minnesota?
No, no. It was worse. I linked to the other Peoria forum. I know - the horror.
So, therefore, you know what dear so-and-so? Get over yourself. Grow the fuck up. Take your head out of your ass. Censorship for moral or political reasons is wrong. Censorship because of local forum wars? That's just stupid.
And, oh yeah . . . bite me.
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Nothing racist? Nothing that perpetrates a lie? No offensive pictures that belittle other peoples' religion? You weren't bullying anyone?
It's interesting the things control freaks need to censor, isn't it?
Did I miss something? What in sam hell is this about? Explain, please.
Nevermind. I got it. No "so and so" needs to get over themselves. There is a simple script that doesn't show blog posts on the Peoria.com blog feed which links to Peoria Speaks. I learned this some time ago when I linked to a P.S. myself.
I can assure you that no-one is actively censoring you.
The script is active, therefore I think it is safe to say that it is actively censoring.
And I have to agree...it seems totally arbitrary on what will be censored. You can show our President-Elect in a turban or a girl that looks either possessed or in the throws of a screaming orgasm, but you can't link to another site? You have to agree that seems like a huge contradiction in morals and censorship.
Damn! I missed the orgasm! I did catch the snake! Not literally, of course!
If a script is running to screen posts, it is as good as having someone at the keyboard. It is an active censor. Yes it is pretty petty of Joe.
It just shows that any local independent board is a potential threat to his business model.
I still think Billy should run a forum on his Blogpeoria.
Sorry, PI . . . but it is wrong. It is censorship, plain and simple.
Stop and ask yourself why the script is in there. The only possible legitimate answer is that it is petty, juvenile crap.
So, on your work website you allow advertising links to competing businesses?
Well, anonymous, since you know so much, my work website doesn't advertise period. But good try. Thanks for playing.
And, what I wrote was not advertising. It was about my personal life. As a matter of fact, except for the people involved in the reason for the link, some people could have not-so-wrongly assumed that I was pissed at what was discussed on the other forum about me.
And, if I tried, I bet I could link to a thousand different so-called "competing" websites and still not be censored. This is personal toward the other forum. I don't like being a token in the stupid game.
PDC does not consider PS a competing website. PDC has very valid reasons for refusing to link to PS. Being an advocate of the law, I would hope that you would respect the site owners right to do so, as we certainly respect yours.
Your right on the other hand, is to not participate on a site that you disagree with and/or request your blog URL be removed from the site. As a policy, PDC has had to block less than .001 percent of its membership. Not too bad for a site that has over 2500 registered users and close to 400 posts per day. I think we do a fairly good job under the circumstances, and make no apologies for autoscripts that are in place to protect the PDC site and its membership from abuse.
One of your posts didn't show up on the blogfeed of a website that you all detest and you're up in arms? Give me a break. You know how to contact me but you chose to have a public rant for the purposes of continuing the divide. Talk about petty.
PI, you know how to contact PH, yet you feel the need to namecall on her public blog? Give ME a break.
I'm sure glad Joe fixed the glitch that would link my blog header to your blog on the PDC blogroll. I would hate to be attached to such divisiveness and animosity! LOL.
Wow. Seems odd to complain about this sensorship as Peoria Speaks kicks you off their site for non-participation because they think you must be a Peoria.com spy or something. Sheesh.
Must be a slow day in the Peoria blog arena.
Wow...now I know why I don't link to those forums. Well, than and the fact that a lot of my posts are about sex. LOL Seriosuly though...the whole thing stinks like doo doo, really. Not that I matter much, honestly...but I'm staying away from BOTH of those sites from now on in honor of the fact that censorship just blows, and so does drama...
Hugs, PH...
Don't let the bastards get ya down!
:o)
PI - this has absolutely nothing to do with you. Seriously.
I don't hate PDC at all. I have had my blog listed there since day one. I am not choosing sides, for pete's sake. I like both forums. I may not always agree with everyone on both forums, but I take everything with a grain of salt.
I am complaining because it was censored and some of the other stuff I have seen on the blogs on PDC is way more objectionable than that.
I did not start this "war" if you want to call it that. In fact, I have barely participated in it other than being aware of and listening to BOTH sides.
My beef is with censorship, plain and simple. If Peoria Speaks did the same thing to me for linking to Peoria.com, I would have the exact same post about them.
PDC aren't they the trash people? They have their own forum? Who wants to blog over there anyway? The blogosphere is huge, nobody has a lock on it. If you think you do, you're fooling yourself.
Run a forum on Blog Peoria?
Oh, sure. It's not like my site already had resource issues.
It's not like I don't already have time issues.
It's not like running a forum means you have to deal with bickering forum members.
" SNMehr said...
Wow. Seems odd to complain about this sensorship as Peoria Speaks kicks you off their site for non-participation because they think you must be a Peoria.com spy or something. Sheesh."
No. Specifically, "Lack of Participation". We are a privately owned forum with no advertising purposes. Therefore, we choose to have actively participating members is all.
Booting someone for lack of participation? Damned troublemaker.
Geesh, get a life.
I posted for quite a while at PDC, but ceased when one of my posts (completely lacking any foul language or offensive images) was removed, yet posts that were blatantly anti-Hispanic, homophobic and posts that used the term "mulatto" as a slur were allowed to remain.
It's really sad that others might visit Peoria.com and view such rubbish as indicative of the character of the average Peorian.
If it such an awful site, why do you guys have your blogs listed on their blogs page? I would think you wouldn't want to be associated with it. I'm so confused.
And if you are really against all censorship, when can we expect your rant post about the "censorship" talked about here on the other private forums? And censorship in the PJStar comments? Aren't they all "private"? Is there some government run forum I'm not aware of? This is all soooo confusing.
ms.ph give me a break ! You are so into yourself get over it !
Yes, this single mom with a career that is also an active volunteer in the community is just way too into herself.
Are you kidding me?
I have never met some one as not self-involved as Ms. PH. We need a whole lot more people like her in this world!
There sure are a lot of anonymous fuckers leaving rude comments on people's blogs lately. People, get lives.
"Confused," I think it's entirely appropriate for a site to have standards, such as no racist remarks, no homophobic rants, no attacking others, but what PDC does is ALLOW such awful, hateful things while DISALLOWING a harmless link.
Completely petty.
Holy shit. What the *fuck* is going down in Peoria? I've never been but seriously what is going on? Tell me who it is and I'm coming up there with my three year old so that person can sit through 40 minutes of my son asking the same thing over and over. If that doesn't drive the prudie crazy I don't know what will. Also, Fuck. I don't usually say that word, but man is it fun to type. I just wanted to further upset your censor. I'm off to read the offending post now.
I think I like this Steenky Bee person.
PeoriaSpeaks! said...
Geesh, get a life.
Thats pretty funny coming from someone who has the time to ban non-posters.
"Anonymous said...
PeoriaSpeaks! said...
Geesh, get a life.
Thats pretty funny coming from someone who has the time to ban non-posters."
Why does this bother you enough to have to leave a comment on someone else's blog? Again, we are not about 'numbers', we are about quality members. Deal with it and get over it. Otherwise, you may want to seek some counseling.
"racist remarks, no homophobic rants, no attacking others, but what PDC does is ALLOW such awful, hateful things"
Seriously, dude, if this is true, why would you NOT take your blog off their blogroll?
OK - I had promised someone I would just let this go, but I just need to make one thing clear. I am not the one making all the comments about PDC on my blog here, confused.
As I said in my third comment, I don't hate PDC! I have my blog listed there for a reason. There are some very good things about PDC. But, as with all things in life, there are also some not good things. Any large online forum is bound to have some people with whom I disagree. That doesn't mean I will pull my blog. That's just silly. But I have every right to disagree with them.
*Sorry* about yesterday. :( I'll be more careful....
Both sites have their little difficulties, Speaks is all hard core liberal folk that will ban you for lurking, they want you to participate in as much as you will communicate and agree with them or they will all get together and berate you, if you then choose to quietly peruse the site they will ban you, beware the tolerant left they are the most dangerous and intolerant of all. PDC will censor you but will never ban you and there appears to be enough points of view on that site to keep almost anyone but the thinnest of skinned fairly well protected from an internet version of a prison gang rape. I think the safety is in numbers here, go with the bigger site and you are less likely to run so far afoul that you can no longer participate on or even read the site.
That's OK, Steenky! I still loooooove you tons!
Like I said before...SO glad I am a lone wolf.
PH...
I would just take your blog off of there now especially. It's obvious that this is a tactic to pull hits to the site because now EVERYONE is probably looking on there as well to see follow up posts/commetns on the aftershock of the whole thing.
What can I say...I'm a bit of a conspiracy theorist.
Between the anon weenies over at Flams place and now here...it's just getting ridiculous.
Again, don't let the bastards get you down.
PEACE PEOPLE!
"Why does this bother you enough to have to leave a comment on someone else's blog?"
Why does it bother you so much that you have to respond to it? Need the last word? Go ahead.
OK...now I'm fed up. The peace patrol is officially over. These cowards who won't own up to what they say and post by name and not anonymously can go fuck themselves.
And THAT is the last word, dipshit.
Nuff said.
Pardon me...IF you were being positive about PH, I truly apoligize for calling you a dipshit, my bad. BUT if you are leaving negative, snarky, backhanded comments here and not identifying yourself...you are still a dipshit.
BUT...if you are leaving positive/constructive anon comments, you should still identify yourself. We wanna know ya and welcome you to the fold.
Again...my bad.
"beware the tolerant left they are the most dangerous and intolerant of all"
...says the person who votes for the anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-immigrant, anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-diversity, anti-poor, pro-war Republican party.
You guys crack me up!
"...says the person who votes for the anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-immigrant, anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-diversity, anti-poor, pro-war Republican party."
He says as he hammers home the point that the far left is possibly the most bigoted intolerant and annoying group of people on the planet. No room for another opinion and any negative talk about a democrat candidate is tantamount to sodomizing their mom. Lighten up there geek squad.
Did you hear? The Cubs aren't going to re-sign Kerry Wood. Good riddance, I say.
Yeah. Equal rights for all is so patently intolerant, genius.
"far left"
You give me the laughs, funny man. Now I draw your attention to http://politicalcompass.org/uselection2008
One party is indeed on the fringe. Can you guess which one? If Democrats are what you call "leftist," that would make you a fascist by comparison.
Not that it matters. Politicalcompass.org is about as neutral as they come, but you nutbags call anything that does blow the Republican party "liberal," (which, in and of itself, ought to tell you something) so there's really no point in arguing.
At any rate, what I said is true. I'd like an example of how Proposition 8 isn't anti-gay, when it takes away rights gays previously had. I'd really like to know how the Republican party isn't anti-minority, when you have idiots like Rush Limbaugh and the Fox News pundits consistently drumming up fear about them, as well as ridiculing black congressmen, black leaders and minority interests.
Please, oh wise one, explain how your rabid nationalism isn't anti-immigrant. Tell me how an attempt to characterize Barack Obama as a Muslim isn't nationalist. While you're at it, explain to me how suspending funding for the extremely promising stem cell research and the promotion of wacko, categorically discredited religious nutbaggery like Intelligent Design to replace the teaching of biological evolution ISN'T anti-science.
Explain loudmouths like Limbaugh repeatedly characterizing the intellectual establishment as "pointy-headed intellectuals" who are not to be trusted is A) tolerant or B) pro-intellectualism. Please, inform us how your disastrous trickle-down economic fantasy helps the poor as much or more than it helps the richest Americans.
Do us all a favor and justify pre-emptive war on false pretenses, war crimes, torture and the suspension of basic civil liberties so we can all rest easy knowing that a major political party isn't hell-bent on turning us into a totalitarian police state.
Finally, explain yourself when you call liberals, of all people, "the most bigoted intolerant and annoying group of people on the planet." I'm on the edge of my seat, Einstein. What's your spectacular case for the sham that the right has become, and how it's actually liberals who are to blame for everything. This ought to be good.
You have your beliefs, they are not all correct, and I have mine. The difference is that you are far more annoying in that jehovahs witness kind of way with your rabid adherence to all things liberal and your rabid hatred of all that do not believe as you do. You make the point that intolerance towards others that do not agree with your political leanings is ingrained into your personality. Just lighten up Sparkles, you have a shiny new President that should make you a happy lil Hobbit not the angry little Dungeon master you seem to be.The point I was making was not in the flaws of of one set o political leanings over another but more in the flawed behavior of one group of people that seem to have similar political views. You have made my point much better than I could have and for that I thank you.
Jesus, why doesn't anyone ever offer a defense for this?
Anyway, I maintain that being intolerant of intolerance or those who are intolerant is not, in any sense, generally intolerant. On the contrary, we should be intolerant of blatant intolerance, intolerant behavior and general bigotry. I'd rather be the kettle when the pot points his finger than accused of complicity in allowing the behavior to continue.
Blatant mischaracterization of my beliefs, by the way, but thanks for trying. You see anyone who holds a different viewpoint as being a party-line liberal and, frankly, you're wrong.
As an aside, the irony in your choice of a handle amuses me greatly.
I agree with PH. And reno. Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. I don't understand why we're still going 'round and 'round about it. There are those who see and those who refuse to see.
Why does EVERYTHING always turn out to be PeoriaSpeaks vs. Peori.Com? Aren't there any other people in this universe that disagree with someone else's opinion? How many people visit the blogs every day? Where all the hate is coming from is completely lost on me. I don't really understand why the blog even started in the first place. I'm obviously missing something. I am on Peoria. com, but I also read Ms Ph's blog each and every time it pops up. I don't care where she spends her time when online, who's so called "side of the fence" she's on. She's one of my favorite blogs, I find her amusing, plain and simple. Maybe, just maybe everyone is being a little too sensitive on such a simple issue:( I'm hoping this is resolved soon, as I feel it's tarnishing her blog in a very negative way.
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